Friday, January 20, 2006

...Meeting the Atheist (Part 2)

Continued...



So this bloke is an atheist Buddhist. He then starts saying to me "Why do you believe in God?" I said, "Because He created me, He created the Universe, and He has given me so much... How can I not believe in God?" He became fired up. At this point (believe me or not) it was as if I could see total pitch darkness in the man's eyes with fire burning in them. No joke!

Once, twice, three times, he continued to dissuade me that there is God. "Show me where is God?" "Show where my God is not?" I replied. (Sikhs don't believe in Satan as in the Christianity and Islam, however) the man was like Satan! He represented pure evil. You may think I am mad. But I cant explain the amount of negativity I felt. It was not only me, my mum felt this, and both of us shared our experience of this man who was hell-bent on dissuading me to worship and follow Waheguru.
ਨਿੰਦਕੁ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਭੁਲਾਇਆ ਕਾਲੁ ਨੇਰੈ ਆਇਆ ਹਰਿ ਜਨ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਦੁ ਉਠਰੀਐ
nindak prabhoo bhulaa-i-aa, kaal nerai aa-i-aa, har jan si-o baad uthree-ai.
The slanderer forgets Waheguru, death approaches him, and he starts to argue with the humble servant of the Lord Waheguru.

ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾ ਰਾਖਾ ਆਪਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਕਿਆ ਮਾਨਸ ਬਪੁਰੇ ਕਰੀਐ ॥੨॥੯॥੯੫॥
naanak kaa raakhaa aap prabh su-aamee, ki-aa maanas bapure karee-ai. 2995
Waheguru Himself, the Lord and Master, is Nanak's protector. What can any wretched person do to him? 2995
(Ang 823, SGGS)

Guess what? Then this atheist dodgey man had the cheek to use GURBANI to defend his atheistic cynical views! (I will go into this later on). He was pushing it. I remember telling people afterwards about this man and people said, "Why don't swear at him" "Why didn't you hit him" "Why didn't you threaten this man." However, at the time my mind was in battle with this man and to be honest afterwards I thought "I wish had I said this and that.. etc"

Mr. Ashoka or whatever his name was, began saying, "GURU NANAK WAS AN ATHEIST." Sat Naam, Waheguru. At this point, "O my Lord! I am sitting next to a loony or he's the Devil!" I said, "How was Guru Nanak Sahib an atheist? The whole Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is about how to meet Waheguru! Have you read or heard the Mool Mantar?"

Now this was getting disturbing. He started to say "Guru Nanak was an undercover atheist because he knew the world would not accept him if they knew he didn't believe in God. He was the incarnation of the Lord Buddha." O my God! What can I say to this Moorakh (foolish guy)?
ਜਿਨਿ ਜਗਤੁ ਉਪਾਇ ਹਰਿ ਰੰਗੁ ਕੀਆ ਤਿਸੈ ਵਿਟਹੁ ਕੁਰਬਾਣੁ
jin jagat upaa-e har rang kee-aa, tisai vittahu kurbaan.
I am a sacrifice to that Lord who created the world, and who loves it.

ਆਪੁ ਛੋਡਹਿ ਤਾਂ ਸਹੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਚਾ ਏਹੁ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ
aap chhoddeh taa(n) saho milai, sachaa eihu veechaar.
Give up your selfishness, and then you shall meet your Husband Lord Waheguru. Consider this Truth.

ਹਉਮੈ ਫਿਕਾ ਬੋਲਣਾ ਬੁਝਿ ਸਕਾ ਕਾਰ
hau-mai fikaa bolnaa, bujh na sakaa kaar.
Speaking in shallow egotism, no one understands the Ways of Waheguru.
(Ang 1420, SGGS)

I said who created the world? Who created the land, water and sky? Who creates, sustains and destroys life and the creation? The atheist was like the Devil (Manmukh/Saakat) trying to convince me not to believe in Waheguru and not to take Amrit. He said the creation of the world was mere pot-luck with various collisions of different atoms or something and "Wallah the world is here."

I think he had some issues with Sikhs. He said that he had been a Sikh and gone to the Gurdwara. However, he said that people look down on others of lower-castes and this that the other. I think he was so anti-Sikh because of a bad personal experience or something, which made him become a Radha Soami, then a Nirankari and now a Buddhist (but his vichaar were typical of Nakli Nirankaris). Rab Bhalla Kare (God help him!).

He said, "God has no power, God is not strong and God is not the creator!" I suppose he thought he was the Creator! Well not quite. He said, "Allah means VOID. All empty space around us "RAB."" Okay we're getting somewhere. So he now believes in God, right? No! He said empty space is God - then he says "YOU WANT TO BECOME A BRAHM-GYAANI? HERE, I CAN GIVE YOU BRAHM GYAAN!" I was like "Err... this bloke who looks half-dead, bags under his eyes, evil look on his face, reminds of the devil, who is letting off negative vibes and is further more got a face like he has a hang over wants to give "BRAHM-GYAAN" (Wisdom of Enlightenment of God). O Deary me!"

To be continued...

3 comments:

Angad Singh said...

Manvir..from this post i believe you were just being tested by guru ji..and its great to know you succeeded and went on to give your head to the guru

guru ang sang!

Angad Singh

TeraRoop said...

Totally off topic, but I stole your picture.

Nice banner BTW.

Chardee Kalaa, veer.. Chardee Kalaa =)

Waheguru Jee Kaa Khaalsa! Waheguru Jee Kee Fateh!

Singhstah said...

Those who forget the lord, and go against him, truly become like raakhshas. But power of gursikh is enough to defeat him.